WTPA45 PHFO 020254 RRA TCDCP5 TROPICAL STORM MADELINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 27 NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP142016 500 PM HST THU SEP 01 2016 SINCE THE LAST ADVISORY PACKAGE, THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION OF MADELINE HAS DETERIORATED. REMAINING DEEP CONVECTION IS WITHIN A SMALL CLUSTER OVER THE CIRCULATION CENTER. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK FIXES WERE 3.0/45 KT FROM PHFO AND 2.5/35 KT FROM SAB. THE CIMSS ADT SHOWED 33 KT. THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MAY NO LONGER BE A DISTINCT LOW LEVEL CENTER BASED ON THE 2042 UTC ASCAT PASS SHOWING ONLY A TROUGH IN THE WIND FIELD WITH 30 KT WINDS TO THE NORTH. ANALYSIS OF THE ASCAT AMBIGUITY AND NRCS DATA ALSO SUGGEST THE POSSIBILITY OF A TROUGH. IF THERE IS STILL A LOW LEVEL CENTER, IT IS QUITE SMALL. THIS ADVISORY IS BASED ON THE CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTION THAT A LOW LEVEL CENTER STILL EXISTS AND HAS AN INITIAL INTENSITY OF 35 KT. DESPITE THE WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES, THE MODERATE TO STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR AND THE RELATIVELY DRY MID-LEVEL AIR TO THE WEST AND NORTH IS EXPECTED TO BE TOO MUCH TO OVERCOME. THE GFS, ECMWF, AND HWRF PROJECT CONTINUED WEAKENING TOWARD DISSIPATION WHILE THE LGEM AND DSHP MAINTAIN MADELINE AS A TROPICAL DEPRESSION THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE FORECAST FOR THIS ADVISORY IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE GLOBAL MODELS AND HWRF, CALLING FOR MADELINE TO BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TONIGHT THEN A POST-TROPICAL REMNANT LOW IN ABOUT 2 DAYS IF NOT SOONER. THE PRESUMED CENTER OF MADELINE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST, 270 DEGREES, AT 11 KT. THE CYCLONE WILL CONTINUE TO BE STEERED BY A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST OF THE HAWAIIAN=