WTPA45 PHFO 191500 TCDCP5 TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE-C DISCUSSION NUMBER 3 NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI CP052015 500 AM HST SAT SEP 19 2015 INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT A MASS OF COLD CLOUD TOPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CYCLONE HAS PERSISTED SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY TIMELY OR USEFUL MICROWAVE PASSES... BI-SPECTRAL IMAGERY SHOWS HINTS OF LOW CLOUD LINES CURVING INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE A LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER LOCATED ON THE NORTHWESTERN EDGE OF THE COLD CLOUD TOPS. THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING THE LOW LEVEL CENTER IS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE LATEST SUBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM PHFO/PGTW/KNES...WHICH ARE NEARLY 2 DEGREES APART IN THEIR CENTER POSITION ESTIMATES. LATEST T-NUMBERS RANGE FROM 2.0/30 KT FROM PHFO/KNES WHILE JTWC DERIVED 2.5/35 KT. DUE TO UNCERTAINTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE POSITION OF THE LOW LEVEL CENTER...THE INITIAL INTENSITY FOR THIS ADVISORY WILL BE MAINTAINED AT 30 KT. FOR REASONS DESCRIBED ABOVE...THE INITIAL MOTION VECTOR FOR THIS ADVISORY IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 045/08 KT. THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY BEING STEERED BY THE FLOW BETWEEN A MID- AND UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE LOCATED TO ITS SOUTHEAST...AND AN APPROACHING CLOSED LOW ALOFT CENTERED TO THE DISTANT NORTHWEST. THIS SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT 12 HOURS OR SO...WITH A TURN TOWARD THE NORTH AND AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED EXPECTED THEREAFTER. THIS WILL OCCUR AS THE DEEP LAYER FLOW BECOMES INCREASINGLY SOUTHERLY...AS THE LOW TO THE NORTHWEST DRAWS CLOSER...AND A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED RIDGE DEVELOPS NEAR THE MAIN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. THE UPDATED TRACK FORECAST IS ONCE AGAIN CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS...AND LIES NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE RELIABLE GUIDANCE...WHICH IS TIGHTLY CLUSTERED IN TAKING THE CENTER OF THE CYCLONE VERY CLOSE TO LAYSAN. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE LITTLE IN THE WAY OF ACROSS-TRACK DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE RELIABLE TRACK MODELS...THERE REMAIN SIGNIFICANT ALONG TRACK DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MODELS DUE TO DIFFERENCES IN THE FORECAST FORWARD SPEED OF THE CYCLONE. SOME INTENSIFICATION IS EXPECTED IN THE SHORT TERM AS THE CYCLONE MOVES OVER VERY WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES...WITH WATER TEMPERATURES STEADILY DIMINISHING AFTER ABOUT 48 HOURS. THE MORE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE WITH RESPECT TO THE INTENSITY FORECAST HOWEVER CONTINUES TO HINGE ON THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE CYCLONE AND THE PERSISTENT SOUTHWESTERLY TO SOUTHERLY WIND SHEAR TO WHICH IT WILL BE EXPOSED. AS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CLOSED LOW ALOFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND THE CYCLONE DECREASES...VERTICAL WIND SHEAR WILL RAMP UP QUICKLY...INCREASING FROM CURRENT VALUES OF 15-20 KT TO 30-40 KT AFTER 72 HOURS. THE UPDATED INTENSITY FORECAST ANTICIPATES SHORT TERM STRENGTHENING TO A TROPICAL STORM IN LINE WITH LATEST SHIPS GUIDANCE. GRADUAL WEAKENING...AND TRANSITION TO AN EXTRATROPICAL LOW...IS EXPECTED BEFORE DISSIPATION OCCURS ON DAY 5. THIS WILL OCCUR AS THE SYSTEM GETS ENGULFED IN THE LARGE CYCLONIC CIRCULATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING CLOSED LOW ALOFT. THE LATEST FORECAST NECESSITATES THE ISSUANCE OF A TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE PAPAHANAUMOKUAKEA MARINE NATIONAL MONUMENT...FROM FRENCH FRIGATE SHOALS TO MARO REEF TO LISIANSKI ISLAND. GIVEN THE INHERENT UNCERTAINTIES IN TRACK AND INTENSITY FORECASTS...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE AREA FROM LISIANSKI ISLAND TO PEARL AND HERMES. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 19/1500Z 19.4N 173.3W 30 KT 35 MPH 12H 20/0000Z 20.5N 173.0W 35 KT 40 MPH 24H 20/1200Z 22.1N 172.5W 40 KT 45 MPH 36H 21/0000Z 23.9N 172.1W 45 KT 50 MPH 48H 21/1200Z 26.5N 171.8W 45 KT 50 MPH 72H 22/1200Z 31.2N 172.5W 40 KT 45 MPH 96H 23/1200Z 37.5N 174.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 120H 24/1200Z...DISSIPATED $$ FORECASTER BIRCHARD